Internal vs mini SD for applications - Treo Forum

Pump Meister · 10-12-2007, 12:34 AM

I have the AT&T 750 w/ wm5 and a 2gb mini sd card.

I have loaded a *lot* of apps... Magic Button, HandyLauncher, Google Maps, Opera, Agenda One, List Pro, Pocket Streamer, various utilities, etc. etc. etc.

My knee jerk approach is to load these apps on the mini sd card to keep from eating up internal memory...

More recently I have begun to think that that is not always the best approach. Some applications that have a component that starts up automatically with the phone after a reset & can have some problems if the applications are not loaded in the phone's internal memory.

Specifically, HandyLauncher will require two successive press and holds on the side button to get it to load--if you don't realize it needs the extra button push, you might think it has hung. Had to do a kludge to stop it from doing that. (copy it to the Startup folder)

Also, the ListPro Alarms feature used to have some problems if you loaded ListPro on the card. They just updated ListPro... not sure yet if they fixed it.

Lastly, Agenda One sometimes won't run at all... the phone seems to lose it and forget it is on the card. I am seriously thinking of reinstalling it in internal... just concerned it will eat up too much memory.

I am interested in hearing from others how you decide where to put your applications... internal vs the mini SD card. I don't want to eat up my internal memory with applications, but it seems like some must get put there to function properly.

Thanks for your thoughts and feedback!

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TazUk · 10-12-2007, 10:02 AM

The 750 has quite a lot of internal memory so I've installed all my apps so far there and still have plenty free

Pump Meister · 10-13-2007, 05:50 PM

Thanks TazUK... I greatly appreciate your feedback.

Interesting... you put all your apps in internal? How many apps do you guess that you have? What is your internal memory usage like for the apps you have?

Do you have a mini SD card? What do you use it for then?

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jfa02 · 10-13-2007, 07:51 PM

It comes in handy for upgrading to wm6 for one thing. I keep my laridian bible software on the card. Much easier than carrying around a big bulky bible.

TazUk · 10-14-2007, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pump Meister

How many apps do you guess that you have?

So far it's :-

TomTom Navigator 6
SBSH Weather
NewsBreak
Minimo
MemMaid
Resco Explorer
Google Maps
MS Live Messenger
MS Live Search
SmartSS screen capture
Inbox Extender

Quote:

What is your internal memory usage like for the apps you have?

Storage Memory
Total : 57.32Mb
In Use : 31.21Mb
Free : 26.12Mb

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Do you have a mini SD card? What do you use it for then?

I have the install files for all of the above on the SD card should I need to re-install them. It also contains the map data for TomTom and MP3's and videos.

gdseric · 10-17-2007, 12:25 AM

I run a lot of 3rd party apps on my Treo, and I install most of them to the miniSD. My decision on where to install is usually based on if I think I am going to use it long-term and if I believe it will be more stable on the device vs. on the miniSD.

Recent installs on the device itself include:

Agendus Pro
Telenav
Pocket Express
eWallet
HanDBase
Spb Backup

On my 4GB Transcend miniSD card, apps I've recently installed:

Everything else! Like...
Google Maps
Several games (Yahtzee, Tetris, Monopoly, Battleship, etc.)
IM+
ListPro
PhatPad
Ringo
Space Reclaimer
VoiceMinder
Weatherbug
Of course, I also use my card to store files, backups, music, etc.

These are all recent installs and I have other apps loaded on my Treo, but where I installed them escapes me at the moment. My Treo is in the other room charging at the moment, so........

78staff · 10-21-2007, 09:04 PM

Wow...I hover around 14 MB free and wonder it that's too little...
On the device I have

TomTom 6
Mobile Shell
SpB Diary
psShutXp
PHM Tools Reg Editor
Tman

On the Card..
Backup
Insight
Phone Suite
Time
Wallet
Weather
TCPMP

Wonder what's using up all my storage memory?

gdseric · 10-21-2007, 09:11 PM

14 isn't too bad. I have some large files I've gone through recently and cleaned up and I have 19 free. Maybe your GPS app is storing files? I use Telenav, so I am not familiar with TomTom.

78staff · 10-21-2007, 10:55 PM

Not sure myself, although I am moving to a 4 gig card so will proably reinstall TomTom with the larger card...so I will look at the difference without TomTom before re-installing.

Pump Meister · 10-22-2007, 12:15 AM

Interesting... I am curious about what problems, if any, have people ran into with installing apps in internal vs the card?

From what I am reading about the GPS apps, if there is a possibility of them storing files, then that would definitely be one app I would put on the card. (Don't use any GPS with the Treo now.)

ListPro gave me some problems if I put it on the card. The alarms feature was the culprit, it turned out. There is a new version of ListPro out, but have not checked if they fixed the problem yet.

HandyLauncher is another one that I have had problems with installing on the card.

10-12-2007, 12:34 AM	#1 (permalink)
Pump Meister Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 My Treo: Treo 750 My Carrier: Cingular/AT&T My OS: XP Posts: 74 Thanks: 17 Thanked 37 Times in 27 Posts	Internal vs mini SD for applications I have the AT&T 750 w/ wm5 and a 2gb mini sd card. I have loaded a lot of apps... Magic Button, HandyLauncher, Google Maps, Opera, Agenda One, List Pro, Pocket Streamer, various utilities, etc. etc. etc. My knee jerk approach is to load these apps on the mini sd card to keep from eating up internal memory... More recently I have begun to think that that is not always the best approach. Some applications that have a component that starts up automatically with the phone after a reset & can have some problems if the applications are not loaded in the phone's internal memory. Specifically, HandyLauncher will require two successive press and holds on the side button to get it to load--if you don't realize it needs the extra button push, you might think it has hung. Had to do a kludge to stop it from doing that. (copy it to the Startup folder) Also, the ListPro Alarms feature used to have some problems if you loaded ListPro on the card. They just updated ListPro... not sure yet if they fixed it. Lastly, Agenda One sometimes won't run at all... the phone seems to lose it and forget it is on the card. I am seriously thinking of reinstalling it in internal... just concerned it will eat up too much memory. I am interested in hearing from others how you decide where to put your applications... internal vs the mini SD card. I don't want to eat up my internal memory with applications, but it seems like some must get put there to function properly. Thanks for your thoughts and feedback! PM

10-12-2007, 10:02 AM	#2 (permalink)
TazUk Mostly harmless Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kent, UK My Treo: Treo 750v My Carrier: Vodaphone My OS: XP Posts: 3,715 Thanks: 157 Thanked 410 Times in 321 Posts	The 750 has quite a lot of internal memory so I've installed all my apps so far there and still have plenty free __________________ Treo 180 > Treo 270 > Treo 650 > Treo 750v (Running WM6) + Treo 500v + Centro "Going to church no more makes you a christian than sleeping in your garage makes you a car." *Garrison Keillor*

10-17-2007, 12:25 AM	#6 (permalink)
gdseric Senior Treonaut Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NW Indiana, USA My Treo: Treo 750 My Carrier: Cingular/AT&T My OS: Vista Posts: 403 Thanks: 108 Thanked 51 Times in 38 Posts	I run a lot of 3rd party apps on my Treo, and I install most of them to the miniSD. My decision on where to install is usually based on if I think I am going to use it long-term and if I believe it will be more stable on the device vs. on the miniSD. Recent installs on the device itself include: Agendus Pro Telenav Pocket Express eWallet HanDBase Spb Backup On my 4GB Transcend miniSD card, apps I've recently installed: Everything else! Like... Google Maps Several games (Yahtzee, Tetris, Monopoly, Battleship, etc.) IM+ ListPro PhatPad Ringo Space Reclaimer VoiceMinder Weatherbug Of course, I also use my card to store files, backups, music, etc. These are all recent installs and I have other apps loaded on my Treo, but where I installed them escapes me at the moment. My Treo is in the other room charging at the moment, so........ __________________ ty, ty, tyvm! gdseric Central Indiana, USA Treo 90, 180, 180g, 270, 300, 600, 650, 680, 700p, & 750! (Tried the BlackBerry and MANY other Palm- & Windows-based models )

10-21-2007, 09:11 PM	#8 (permalink)
gdseric Senior Treonaut Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NW Indiana, USA My Treo: Treo 750 My Carrier: Cingular/AT&T My OS: Vista Posts: 403 Thanks: 108 Thanked 51 Times in 38 Posts	14 isn't too bad. I have some large files I've gone through recently and cleaned up and I have 19 free. Maybe your GPS app is storing files? I use Telenav, so I am not familiar with TomTom. __________________ ty, ty, tyvm! gdseric Central Indiana, USA Treo 90, 180, 180g, 270, 300, 600, 650, 680, 700p, & 750! (Tried the BlackBerry and MANY other Palm- & Windows-based models )

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10-13-2007, 05:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
Pump Meister Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 My Treo: Treo 750 My Carrier: Cingular/AT&T My OS: XP Posts: 74 Thanks: 17 Thanked 37 Times in 27 Posts	Thanks TazUK... I greatly appreciate your feedback. Interesting... you put all your apps in internal? How many apps do you guess that you have? What is your internal memory usage like for the apps you have? Do you have a mini SD card? What do you use it for then? PM

10-13-2007, 07:51 PM	#4 (permalink)
jfa02 Moderator Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Arkansas My Treo: Treo 750 My Carrier: Cingular/AT&T My OS: XP Posts: 3,548 Thanks: 1,132 Thanked 212 Times in 192 Posts	It comes in handy for upgrading to wm6 for one thing. I keep my laridian bible software on the card. Much easier than carrying around a big bulky bible.

10-21-2007, 09:04 PM	#7 (permalink)
78staff Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 My Treo: Treo 750 My Carrier: Cingular/AT&T My OS: Vista Posts: 31 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Wow...I hover around 14 MB free and wonder it that's too little... On the device I have TomTom 6 Mobile Shell SpB Diary psShutXp PHM Tools Reg Editor Tman On the Card.. Backup Insight Phone Suite Time Wallet Weather TCPMP Wonder what's using up all my storage memory?

10-21-2007, 10:55 PM	#9 (permalink)
78staff Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 My Treo: Treo 750 My Carrier: Cingular/AT&T My OS: Vista Posts: 31 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Not sure myself, although I am moving to a 4 gig card so will proably reinstall TomTom with the larger card...so I will look at the difference without TomTom before re-installing.

10-22-2007, 12:15 AM	#10 (permalink)
Pump Meister Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 My Treo: Treo 750 My Carrier: Cingular/AT&T My OS: XP Posts: 74 Thanks: 17 Thanked 37 Times in 27 Posts	Interesting... I am curious about what problems, if any, have people ran into with installing apps in internal vs the card? From what I am reading about the GPS apps, if there is a possibility of them storing files, then that would definitely be one app I would put on the card. (Don't use any GPS with the Treo now.) ListPro gave me some problems if I put it on the card. The alarms feature was the culprit, it turned out. There is a new version of ListPro out, but have not checked if they fixed the problem yet. HandyLauncher is another one that I have had problems with installing on the card.

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